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Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Joined: 09.20.2008

Nov 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
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jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Nov 29 @ 5:28 PM ET
Backstrom is rly washed up Kumper is there best shot unless harding gets his game back.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 29 @ 5:49 PM ET
Kuemper is solid, when he shut-out teams in beginning of season no one complained so maybe the team needs to play better at defense????
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
Kuemper is solid, when he shut-out teams in beginning of season no one complained so maybe the team needs to play better at defense????
- Ur Not Me


Have you seen some of the soft goals he has given up? Yes, the defense has hung him out to dry at times, but overall, Kuemper needs to work on tightening up his mechanics and maintaining at least a semblance of consistency. He is quickly turning into Backstrom; great one game, lousy the next.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
Have you seen some of the soft goals he has given up? Yes, the defense has hung him out to dry at times, but overall, Kuemper needs to work on tightening up his mechanics and maintaining at least a semblance of consistency. He is quickly turning into Backstrom; great one game, lousy the next.
- SotaPopinski



Unfortunately softies happen occasionally but I don't get the chance to watch enough of Kuemper to really see what the issue could be.... thanks...........
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:16 PM ET
Unfortunately softies happen occasionally but I don't get the chance to watch enough of Kuemper to really see what the issue could be.... thanks...........
- Ur Not Me


They do, but with him they seem to happen more often. That could be my bias towards him, as I'm not as high on him. He could still develop into a true #1 but he seems to get rattled easily and has quite a bit of room for improvement.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Scandella re-signs 5yrs/$20mil

Granlund and Haula are the only ones left. Nice work, Chuck
manchester33
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 01.26.2013

Nov 29 @ 8:26 PM ET
Scandella re-signs 5yrs/$20mil

Granlund and Haula are the only ones left. Nice work, Chuck

- SotaPopinski

Does that leave enough for both? Obviously the team will keep granlund, but will you still have enough for Haula? If so, that's some good work by fletcher.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 8:37 PM ET
Does that leave enough for both? Obviously the team will keep granlund, but will you still have enough for Haula? If so, that's some good work by fletcher.
- manchester33


I think Granlund and his agent have both come out and expressed a desire to sign a bridge deal, so I can't imagine that being too significant... especially if he continues to have a solid but not great season this year. Haula is a 4th line center who has shown little of what got us all so excited about during last years playoffs. It shouldn't take much to retain him.
The Wild should have about $9 mil to re-sign Granlund, Haula and Carter, if they choose to.
Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Joined: 09.20.2008

Nov 29 @ 9:00 PM ET
I think Granlund and his agent have both come out and expressed a desire to sign a bridge deal, so I can't imagine that being too significant... especially if he continues to have a solid but not great season this year. Haula is a 4th line center who has shown little of what got us all so excited about during last years playoffs. It shouldn't take much to retain him.
The Wild should have about $9 mil to re-sign Granlund, Haula and Carter, if they choose to.

- SotaPopinski


Granlund better get going if he is looking to cash in on a mega deal. Wild winning that stand off right now. Same with Haula.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 9:47 PM ET
Granlund better get going if he is looking to cash in on a mega deal. Wild winning that stand off right now. Same with Haula.
- Tony Dean

Yep, the production from our centers has been atrocious so far. Fletch has done a great job of drafting and locking up the kids to team friendly deals but he could really help this team out by bringing in a #1/2 centerman.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 11:10 PM ET
It's discouraging to see a team play so passively with the lead, time and time again. And to make matters worse, nearly the entire OT period was spent in the Wild's zone.
Line combos continue to make little sense, too many players standing around/being beaten by opposing players to the puck, and far too many long passes that are intercepted 75% of the time.
Would love to see how different this team would play under a real coach.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 29 @ 11:11 PM ET
Also, Pomminvile really needs to wake the (frank) up. One goal this entire month?
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 11:28 PM ET
Also, Pomminvile really needs to wake the (frank) up. One goal this entire month?
- SotaPopinski

He's on pace to score less than 15 goals.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 11:29 PM ET
It's discouraging to see a team play so passively with the lead, time and time again. And to make matters worse, nearly the entire OT period was spent in the Wild's zone.
Line combos continue to make little sense, too many players standing around/being beaten by opposing players to the puck, and far too many long passes that are intercepted 75% of the time.
Would love to see how different this team would play under a real coach.

- SotaPopinski

Not too late to bring in Torts!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 29 @ 11:32 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 29 @ 11:32 PM ET
Not too late to bring in Torts!
- MnGump

It's never too late
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:16 AM ET
Do you guys think the Shattenkirk cross check deserved 5 and a game? I only saw one replay as I am out of town but it looked like a cross check gone wrong with a result a lot worse than the foul to me. Sometimes really bad hits get lucky and don't get bad results. This looked like a bad decision that went a lot worse than it normally would have gone.

The Steen hit right before it almost looked worse.

Sucks that this hit is likely going to change my W to an L in fantasy hockey.

Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Joined: 09.20.2008

Nov 30 @ 12:34 AM ET
Do you guys think the Shattenkirk cross check deserved 5 and a game? I only saw one replay as I am out of town but it looked like a cross check gone wrong with a result a lot worse than the foul to me. Sometimes really bad hits get lucky and don't get bad results. This looked like a bad decision that went a lot worse than it normally would have gone.

The Steen hit right before it almost looked worse.

Sucks that this hit is likely going to change my W to an L in fantasy hockey.

- stljam


On that play it was a scary result and obviously Shattenkirk regretted the cross check immediately.That play was like a slow moving car crash. Deserved the gate but doubt any other discipline will occur.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:34 AM ET
Do you guys think the Shattenkirk cross check deserved 5 and a game? I only saw one replay as I am out of town but it looked like a cross check gone wrong with a result a lot worse than the foul to me. Sometimes really bad hits get lucky and don't get bad results. This looked like a bad decision that went a lot worse than it normally would have gone.

The Steen hit right before it almost looked worse.

Sucks that this hit is likely going to change my W to an L in fantasy hockey.

- stljam


The 2 refs I saw on the television didn't even raise an arm to call a penalty when it happened. It wasn't until after Carter was down on the ice for a few moments until I finally saw the arm go up... what a crock of poop call that was. Sure, Shatty should probably have refrained from cross-checking a guy in his numbers, but I don't see how that fall hurt Carter one bit. Probably just a good acting job by him.
I like the skill on the Blues, but often times they seem more interested in throwing their bodies around and going out of their way to make a hit than they are in making a play on the puck.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:45 AM ET
The 2 refs I saw on the television didn't even raise an arm to call a penalty when it happened. It wasn't until after Carter was down on the ice for a few moments until I finally saw the arm go up... what a crock of poop call that was. Sure, Shatty should probably have refrained from cross-checking a guy in his numbers, but I don't see how that fall hurt Carter one bit. Probably just a good acting job by him.
I like the skill on the Blues, but often times they seem more interested in throwing their bodies around and going out of their way to make a hit than they are in making a play on the puck.

- SotaPopinski


I saw the same thing on the replay. Almost wondered if it was a dive done wrong.

It's one thing to have a heavy forecheck that is opportunistic. It's another thing to run around looking for a hit and taking yourself out of the play. They do way too much of the latter imho but I think a big part of that is Hitch. I've been saying this for years.

When they swarm the forecheck, they can be great. When they force the hits, they get odd man rushes the other way and dumb penalties.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:50 AM ET
On that play it was a scary result and obviously Shattenkirk regretted the cross check immediately.That play was like a slow moving car crash. Deserved the gate but doubt any other discipline will occur.
- Tony Dean


The Scandella hit was a lot more reckless and dangerous imho.

If the NHL really wants to get rid of some of this stuff, make certain penalties mandatory double minors served at the same time (automatic 5 on 3) with an automatic 10 minute misconduct with referee discretion to super size it to a 5 minute major and a game misconduct.
glgbill
Joined: 04.16.2009

Nov 30 @ 1:22 AM ET
Average hockey fans -- those with slower minds -- always blame the goaltender. Smarter, quicker hockey fans know the difference.

Which one are you?

Great article...
Dgmilazz
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.30.2013

Nov 30 @ 8:09 AM ET
No reason to rush Dumba. 20 year old defenseman rarley make an impact. He might not reach his potential for another 5-6 years so just baby the kid for now and let him learn at a steady pace.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 30 @ 10:25 AM ET
Average hockey fans -- those with slower minds -- always blame the goaltender. Smarter, quicker hockey fans know the difference.

Which one are you?

Great article...

- glgbill


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